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TOPIC: ESDR2 no CAT issue

ESDR2 no CAT issue 22 Nov 2021 21:45 #1

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Hello everyone,

I just spent a good long weekend assembling a HobbyPCB Hardrock 500 amp kit (it is a wonderful build and I can highly recommend). The Amp has a FTDI USB chipset onboard and my Mac has the drivers installed correctly. The amp is working working fine as I can use MacLoggerDX software and the amp follows the VFO (see attached photo)
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when MLDX is connected to my SunSDR2 Pro. Ideally, I would like the amp to get band data switching info directly from the amp and NOT through a 3 piece of software. The way I understand CAT in ESDR2, I should be able to point the RX1 tab to the USB device (Macs do not have COM ports & are labeled differently) see attached screen shot. I *think* I would be seeing commands and communication on the right hand side if I have View log enabled. By the way, the Hardrock 500 does 'speak' Kenwood-I verified in their manual. I have tried speeds all the way down to 9600 without luck.
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ESDR2 no CAT issue 23 Nov 2021 01:16 #2

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k5rhd wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just spent a good long weekend assembling a HobbyPCB Hardrock 500 amp kit (it is a wonderful build and I can highly recommend). The Amp has a FTDI USB chipset onboard and my Mac has the drivers installed correctly. The amp is working working fine as I can use MacLoggerDX software and the amp follows the VFO (see attached photo)
ScreenShot2021-11-22at8.02.12AM.png

when MLDX is connected to my SunSDR2 Pro. Ideally, I would like the amp to get band data switching info directly from the amp and NOT through a 3 piece of software. The way I understand CAT in ESDR2, I should be able to point the RX1 tab to the USB device (Macs do not have COM ports & are labeled differently) see attached screen shot. I *think* I would be seeing commands and communication on the right hand side if I have View log enabled. By the way, the Hardrock 500 does 'speak' Kenwood-I verified in their manual. I have tried speeds all the way down to 9600 without luck.
ScreenShot2021-11-22at2.29.22PM.png

Not a Mac guy
but that section you're in for radio, has nothing to do for an AMP control. That section is the radio to talk to say a logger etc. or piece of software for rig control.
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ESDR2 no CAT issue 23 Nov 2021 03:26 #3

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Hi Rick,

Undersood. However, my amp LISTENS for commands and can be controlled by my Mac Logger DX. works fine business. If I understand the radio part, it should OUTPUT commands to an assigned USB port, correct? I am trying to eliminate the 3rd piece of software in the mix.

The first image titled Preferences is taken from the logging software. If you see the part on the right hand side where it says Echo and Format, that is the USB (FTDI) on the amp. As the name implies, it Echos CAT commands to that USB device using Kenwood (TS-480).

As far as CAT in ESDR, shouldn't I be at least seeing some CAT commands (even if they are failing) in the log window?

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ESDR2 no CAT issue 23 Nov 2021 08:04 #4

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Couple things.
No.1 ECATv1 is the the EE proprietary protocol targeted to compatibility with TS-480. Important add on to this - it is designed to be working over RS-232. The "catcha" is that RS-232 does not exist in Mac. USB under Mac does the kind of the emulation which is (under certain circumstances) may be not 100% compatible. Speaking programming it is driver over driver over driver.

The described complication is one of the major reasons why TCI is preferred under Mac over RS-232-over-USB.

No.2 As interim solution try to use SDC, as its RS-232 emulation was build having in mind of the complexities of Mac emulations. However, as the best way to go forward I would recommend you to initiate discussion with whoever is responsible within HobbyPCB to introduce TCI and engage them to adopt TCI in future releases.
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