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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 02 Sep 2020 14:08 #76

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I have already explained it. Ask Roman at EE to tell you in Russian the difference between mini itx configuration and embedded configuration. The 7700t will out-perform the 7700 in the MB1 embedded environment because of thermal throttling. With my i7-6700t I have a PASSMARK of 3800. A 7700t will give 4000. A 7700 in a mini itx will show a tremendous amount more than 4000 because it can run without limitation.


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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 02 Sep 2020 14:13 #77

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Eric !Novel, so the issue is silent, the response of the Roman Billy not worked with this question !Here is I want under aid forum deal . where are my performance limits ? Am asking You help understand, can who reads forum, too, will prompt!??? Parameter TDP is a parameter of the heat dissipation of the CPU !!!
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 02 Sep 2020 15:24 #78

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This is my last response because I now think you are deliberately winding us up. TDP is as I explained: It refers to the amount of power/heat a cooling system (i.e. heatsink, fan) is expected to dissipate to prevent overheating. It is the system environment as I told you, not all alone the CPU. The 7700 will go into thermal throttling in the embedded environment due to the TDP being too high. Probably, unless you are completely stupid which I doubt, something is being lost in my answers due to language contraints. But all data presented came from Gigabyte themselves. You can easily check it.
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 02 Sep 2020 15:35 #79

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disabling the USB to HDMI connection ( the monitor duplicated my transceiver screen ) I left the monitor of the transceiver and left the monitor 2 connected to the output of the motherboard HDMI again conducted a test, the performance of my PC in the transceiver increased here are the results of measurements ! Here I made measurements and show the difference !!! How do I set it up correctly ? The monitor output is connected to USB3. 0
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 04 Sep 2020 15:14 #80

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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 05 Sep 2020 00:25 #81

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As you may recall, I purchased a standard configuration MB1 a while ago and wanted to upgrade the CPU, RAM, and SSD. I was able to upgrade the RAM to 16GB and the CPU to an i7-6700T without a problem, but for some reason can't seem to clone the original 120GB SSD to a 1TB NVMe SSD. I did the cloning in the MB1, and tried both AOMEI Backerupper and EaseUS Todo Backup. I've selected the "Clone Disk" option in both programs, with the 1TB SSD connected through an adapter to one of the rear USB ports. Both clone programs report a successful clone, but I cannot get the MB1 to boot from the cloned drive.

Questions:
1) Am I doing the cloning correctly? Is it really as simple as cloning the 120GB SSD to the 1TB SSD with the 120GB drive still in the MB1 and using the "Clone Disk" command?
2) Is it possible that the MB1 is unable to boot from a drive as large as 1TB?
3) Can I clone the 120GB drive while the MB1 is running from it, or does the cloning have to be done using a separate PC that has booted from its own drive?
4) Does anything have to be done after the cloning operation to make the new SSD bootable?

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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 05 Sep 2020 07:08 #82

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The MB1 will boot from my 2TB NVMe drive so 1TB must also be ok. Cloning is described in the UMA, in the latest version it is on page 84. The device used is 4x only because in Europe there is no 1x equivalent. After cloning by the described method, it is a bootable drive. To clone without buying this hardware is probably quite possible using a separate PC. I do not exactly know why but even my perfectly bootable 850EVO 2.5in SATA will not boot in the MB1 when connected by SATA to USB adapter cable.

One aggravation I had was that most partition styles these days are GBT. My MB1 original disk had been formatted in MBR. Cloning MBR to GPT requires some extra steps that should be explained in your cloning software, otherwise it will not boot no matter what tools are used (if indeed your original is also MBR).

Considering that what is on the small original drive is so out of date, easiest is to forget about cloning, back up any essential data, and make a fresh install on the new drive.
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 11 Sep 2020 03:14 #83

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Good news! I was able to clone the 120GB SATA SSD to a 1TB NVMe SSD using the technique you described. I purchased an M.2 SATA SSD to 2.5" SATA adapter, installed the 120GB SATA SSD into it, connected it to one of the internal SATA ports in the MB1 and booted from it. Then I used AOMEI Backerupper (installed on the 120GB drive) to clone the drive to the new drive. Voila! I was able to boot from the new drive and it behaved just like the old drive, except noticeably faster.

Because the Backerupper software did an exact clone, I had an unused 800+ GB partition on the new drive. I used AOMEI Partition Assistant to resize the boot partition to take advantage of the extra space. The MB1 did a disk check when it booted from the newly partitioned drive, then rebooted successfully.

Thanks again for all the help! I've finally got the MB1 configured just as I want it!
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 11 Sep 2020 03:58 #84

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Hi,

the bottleneck in the images based on the mass storage, need to be replaced faster.

My results:

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73, Tomas
Equipment: MB1, ExpertSDR2, Lenovo X1 Carbon
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CPU and Memory Upgrades - Guide and Discussion 11 Sep 2020 05:26 #85

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If the replacement chosen is a Samsung 970 EVO Plus you will have the fastest possible. But do not get too carried away with benchmark tests because they are not real world. In these all cores are forced to full capacity which does not happen in real situations. In fact the single core speed is far more important. Nevertheless, having said that, obviously higher benchmark is better. Note too that actually there is no bottleneck - the actual limitation is in the locked BIOS on these motherboards. You can get a full spec sheet from Gigabyte on request.
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