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Booting problems 18 Jul 2020 17:04 #1

Hi all , I have been having problems booting after radio has been off for a few hours. Sometimes it does not get to the bios screen and cuts out and I press start again and the gigabyte screen comes on which I have never seen before. sometimes i get the bios screen twice then it boots.
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Booting problems 18 Jul 2020 18:36 #2

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The CMOS battery needs replacing. See the UMA for details.
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Booting problems 18 Jul 2020 18:47 #3

Thanks Erik I will order one.

Rgards
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Booting problems 18 Jul 2020 18:57 #4

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Once installed, you will need to reconfigure BIOS to optimum settings, especially the panel display. Have an external monitor connected to the HDMI port so you can see something. Make some notes of the existing BIOS settings and especially note the panel display setting. Any trouble, email me.
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Booting problems 06 Sep 2020 23:53 #5

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I have been in the process of upgrading my MB1. So far I have increased the RAM to 16GB and changed the CPU to the i7-6700T, but I'm still having trouble creating a working clone of the 120GB SSD. I have gotten as far as being able to boot from the 1TB SSD into Windows 10, so that's something.

Anyway, I figured I would just do a backup of the original drive and then use the backup to restore the files to my 1TB SSD. Unfortunately, while doing the backup we had a "rolling blackout" (I'm in San Diego, where it was over 100 degrees F today). After the power was restored the MB1 would no longer boot from the 120GB drive. In the boot settings section of the BIOS, the option for Windows Boot Manager for the SSD is no longer there, and that is the option I believe that I need to be able to boot from the SSD.

While trying to figure out how to fix it, I reset the BIOS it to "Default Settings" and now the internal display shows only a vertical white line. I have the HDMI output connected to my television, and I see that the BIOS is now set for a much higher resolution display than the panel in the MB1, but I don't see a 1200x800 setting in the BIOS.

Can someone help me to restore the BIOS to the proper configuration? Also, does anyone know how to re-enable the Windows Boot Manager option as a boot selection? Thanks very much!
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 07:01 #6

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With a monitor connected to an external display port on rear of MB1, using the delete key, enter BIOS during the boot process.

Tab to Chipset. Set the display to 1280 x 800 / 24 bit / single. LVDS enabled of course.

Tab to Boot. Set Option 1 of boot priority to Windows Boot Manager (your drive). Other options can be filled if you have them, otherwise leave blank.

Save and reset, reboot.

The above assumes the BIOS is not corrupted by the power failure. This should put you back in business. If not, you wil need to clear BIOS and return it to defaults before settings all parameters. There is a CMOS clear jumper on the motherboard.
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 12:34 #7

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Thanks for the reply!

It seems strange, but I don't have a 1200 x 800 / 24-bit / Single setting in the BIOS.

The 120 GB drive does not show a Windows Boot Manager option in the boot selection window. When I install my 1 TB drive, I do see that option. This suggests to me that the 120GB drive was corrupted during the power failure. I will do some research and see if it's possible to repair that drive.

In the meantime, without a 1200 x 800 display setting in my current BIOS (F5), should I consider re-flashing the BIOS to F6, or is there another way to reacquire that setting?
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 14:08 #8

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Replying to my last post, I have a bit of good news and some possibly bad news:

The reason I couldn't find the 1200 x 800 / 24-Bit / Single setting in the BIOS is that LVDS has to be set to "ON" (not "AUTO") first, and only then is the 1200 x 800 option available. I have now set the BIOS correctly and the internal display is working.

The possibly bad news is that the internal display now shows some vertical "smudges" that may be a result of having the BIOS set incorrectly and driving the display with incompatible settings. As I use the display with the correct BIOS settings, the smudges seem to be fading, but they're definitely still there. The display is completely readable and very usable, but the smudges are still a distraction and I hope that they will either go away on their own, or that there is a hardware or software fix for this.

The other bit of bad news is that even though my Google search found a method that supposedly will restore the Windows Boot Manager to my 120GB drive, it doesn't work.

One step forward, two steps back...
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 14:12 #9

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It is not 1200 x 800 / 24Bit / Single. Please see my message. The setting I quoted is one of the options. Please re-check but, of course, do advise us if really missing.

The 120GB drive is SATA. In BIOS check that anything to do with SATA is enabled when the drive is present in the M2 slot. Otherwise reformatting will be necessary or, if you need to recover data from it, try in another computer.

Regarding flashing, please check above before going down that route. It can be done but not without risk.
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 15:14 #10

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I apologize for my ongoing typos. I MEANT to type 1280 but for some reason had 1200 stuck in my mind. My bad.

Anyway, there are no BIOS options that I can find for the SATA drive that I can enable. I'm no expert at BIOS settings (as you probably suspect by now), so unless there's a SATA setting that I'm overlooking, I think I'll have to salvage what I can off the 120GB drive and move to the 1TB drive. Very disappointing!

Any thoughts on what may be going on with the smudges on my internal display? Have I damaged it by using incorrect BIOS settings? The smudges seem to have faded a bit, but definitely still there, and are particularly noticeable if they are over a solid light-colored background.
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 15:29 #11

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So, did you find 1280 x 800 / 24bit / single?

Regarding the smudges, yes this is normal if the wrong signals have been sent to the panel screen. But it does not mean it is damaged. Over a short period of time (from memory it was a day or two) they will disappear. I presume you must have it working on the correct setting now if you are seeing them. As those proper signals reach the display, they will slowly eliminate the smudges. If not, after a few days, you would have to liaise with someone more knowledgable than myself.

I wouldn't hold a memorial over the passing of the 120GB drive. It is crap. Slow and prone to accelerated wear. I put mine in a laptop and it failed in less than 18 months.
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 16:10 #12

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Oh yes, I found the correct display setting. Now that I think back, I really don't recall seeing that option until I had turned LVDS on, but I may be misremembering. Anyway, that part is all done. I am hopeful that those smudges will fade away into history!

I can still read the 120GB drive when I attach it to my PC with an m.2 SATA to USB adapter. I'll try using my PC to repair it, but if not, I'll just archive the files onto my PC in case I find that I need any of them later on.

As far as setting up the 1TB drive, what software was originally provided with the MB1 besides ExpertSDR2? Is there anything special I need to do with the Windows 10 configuration to make everything work?

Thanks again!
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 16:26 #13

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OK good. I cannot remember what was on the drive originally but I suspect that ESDR2 was accompanied by the MB1 Utility only and nothing else.

Once W10 is installed, you are good to go with installing software as per your preferences.
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Booting problems 07 Sep 2020 18:08 #14

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Some good news! I was able to repair the boot sector on my 120GB drive using a utility on my PC so the MB1 can boot from it. Also, the screen smudges are definitely fading and I'm pretty sure they'll be completely gone before long.

I'm now back to the stage of making a full disk copy of the 120 GB drive for my archives, then it's on to setting up the 1TB drive.

It's about 30 degrees F cooler today than yesterday, so I doubt they'll be another blackout while I''m running my backup. In the unlikely event we do have another blackout, I now feel confident that I can fix whatever happens to the MB1!

Thanks again for your patience and help in getting things straightened out!

Stan
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