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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 11:40 #1

Hello all,

I am wondering to use my SunSDR2DX in a remote place because I can not install a 40/80 meters dipole at my QTH. My doubt is that I work with macOS and as far as I know it seems there are problems to do a remote connection with it.

According to instructions it seems that we should start with a connection with the cloud and then we can start software and work, remotely, with the SSDR2DX. I have an old windows laptop and of course I can perform first step, my question is:

after the login to cloud may I do a remote session with my Mac computer ?

Best 73 and looking for your answers.

CT1DRB/OK8RB
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 13:16 #2

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I use Remote (at this stage for ESDR3 testing purposes only) under Mac and it works.

Please note that Remote feature is under heavy code re-build by developers. It seems at this stage that comm protocol was improved very much in ESDR3 a.012 (in comparisson with previous alphas and ESDR2) .However ESDR3 version is under intensive test now and may remain this way for some time.

Regarding mechanism (as I am understanding it now):
In ESDR3 a.0.12 cloud is used primarily for user authentication/authorization. When auth is completed, a direct P2P (WebRTC) session supposed to be established between the PC (with ESDR3 app) and the remote site with SunSDR. EEcloud might be used only for the proxy purpose in case of P2P session quality is below thresholds (and assuming that connectivity of each site to EEclould is above those thresholds). Please note that described behavior is current in this alpha, and may change further.
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 14:40 #3

Hello Pavel,

tks indeed for answer.
Ok, that's cool indeed.
Please, can you tell me steps to establish a remote session ?
Some time ago, with my windows pc, I did previous steps without the SSDR2DX.
Best 73 and tks again.

CT1DRB/OK8RB
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 15:09 #4

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Steps are described in the documents published in the Software section (within ESDR3 or Expert Remote Software for ESDR2 sub-menus).
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 17:56 #5

Hello Pavel,

tks indeed for answer.
May you send me the ESDR3 a.012 version use?
Next week I will have my SSDR2DX, again, and may test software.
Best 73.

CT1DRB/OK8RB
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 20:49 #6

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Hi David

At this stage a.012 is dedicated for internal testing and EE is the only source of distribution. I am not authorised to pass the software outside of the testers group.

If you wish to become alpha/beta tester, you have to contact EE directly and express the interest.

Sorry about inconvenience.
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Remote control with macOS. 23 Feb 2022 23:32 #7

Hi Pavel,

how are you doing?

Ok, no problem, in fact I am a alpha/beta tester as well and I think I got an email about this a.012, but the problem is that I do not remember when.

About my question I doubt seriously that I will install a remote, I had idea that only 1 SSDR2DX would be enough to do remote, now I know that a computer is needed to perform the remote and it means that no one here will accept to have a transceiver and a computer always on.

I have to find out, I do not know how, to install a 40/80 meters antenna on my building.

Best 73 and take care.

CT1DRB/OK8RB
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Remote control with macOS. 24 Feb 2022 01:57 #8

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If you can set up an appropriate VPN into your remote network, you won't need to have a computer running as some kind of host. This is what I'm doing - I have a pFSense router at the remote site that accepts OpenVPN connections. This allows my client machine (where I am) to connect as if I am on the remote network and I can access the radio that way. The catch here, though, is that 0.12.0 is quite sensitive to latency and unless you have very low latency (5ms or better), you will see frequent disconnections from the radio. This is not an issue with EESDR2 so that may be an option. There also may be problems with CW due to the lag. Hopefully EESDR3 will address this in the future.
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Remote control with macOS. 01 Mar 2022 18:15 #9

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Hi guys,

My name is Ricardo (PY2PT) and have a MB1 for a couple of years and everything is ok. Great equipment but not ideal for remote because we need to push the on button to turn it on. But some guys here did a great job and found a solution.

In my point of view the sunsdrdx is perfect for remote but after some reading about expert sdr3 and the topics here I realize the in general we should have a computer on remote position (not talking about vpn etc). Is it true, right?

My experience with remote operation, nowadays, is with Flex radio. The main difference is that we only need the radio on remote site connected to internet and done. But with sunder, sunsdrdx, mb1 etc we still need a computer together.

Do you know or you guys from expert are working to solve this issue?

ok, we know that we can use the computer remote etc etc etc but its not reliable. So, as I said before my experience and example is the flex.

I don't like the smartsdr. Expert software is 100% better but as users I think more useful could be a software that talk with the cloud and the device on the remote position without any computer together to start the remote software or turn on something.

What do you guys think about it?

Regards

Ric
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(PX2A contest station)
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