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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 13 Mar 2021 08:33 #1

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Please make it open source to get support by community!
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 13 Mar 2021 12:45 #2

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I wonder have you wrote even one?
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 13 Mar 2021 15:25 #3

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In my opinion, the ExpertSDR2 software is the best software available and it allows me to fully utilise my radio. It is feature rich and can tailor both the receive and transmit paths. The Expert Electronic radios are also my first choice in terms of hardware. I also own an Anan 7000DLE Mk 2 and also an Anan 10e. The PowerSDR mRX PS software is also excellent but comes a very close second place (I haven't tried Thetis yet). In third place is the SmartSDR software from from Flex. It is OK. I do not like all the audio devices it installs. But check out the price tag. Forth, the ICom RS-BA1 software. Very limited functionality compared with the features available on the radio. Again, not free.

Looking forward to v3 of the Expert software.
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 13 Mar 2021 19:05 #4

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Flex DumbSDr is useless for many that want to really make adjustments- esp on CW (side tone ring a bell- or is that still deaf)

While Apache Labs based there early success off of PowerSDr an open source code written by Flex there are many rumblings in the Apache world since Ritchie stopped writing code
Which brings me to the why I don't want to see EESDR go open source.

Apache had to many folks writing code and things got messy, now there are few doing anything with the PowerSDr side of things. Hence Thetis seems to be were most of Apache users are moving in terms of software.

By EESDR keeping it in house: things don't get messy and the code is cleaner, which is one reason why the CPU usage of EESDR is much less then the others, bad coding. multiple lines of the same things redundancy-eats processing

What is like Apache one of the more common coders decides to leave or perhaps place some bad coding (backdooring etc.) in because they get pissed off.

EESDR is using QT6 now for V3- that is a very good move since it makes moving forward with new versions quicker and less troublesome especially since it can be applied to all the platforms.

As far as Support Joesi- by community they get much feedback and I will say unlike another company they acted on it. There open and responsive to the community.

While yes open source has it place, I personally don't see a good move for that with EESDR- software- another thing keeping it in house means they will attend to issues and come up with new things in order to self promote there abilities they then have a goal-(paycheck/job)

I'll second Tom: of all the SDR radios and applications for them, I have used and been around EESDR is easily my #1 pick.

Another thing making it open source can eventually do- Eat up development time and the abilities to put out new software- as it becomes a logistical pain in the ass, and fighting over what should and shouldn't be in releases, feelings get in the way of coding and shit rolls downhill.
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 13 Mar 2021 19:18 #5

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Nice one. I just hope we are not replying to some AI bot. Tom
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 14 Mar 2021 01:56 #6

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You call it AI? :D

Mate, do not hurt AI, please. AI, obviously, uses traditional logic, which is non-detectable in starter's post. Hence - do not feed the troll :)
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 14 Mar 2021 12:04 #7

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N8SDR wrote:
... there are many rumblings in the Apache world since Ritchie stopped writing code
Which brings me to the why I don't want to see EESDR go open source.
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Hi,
is Richard you are talcking about MW0LGE? Does it mean he won't further develop Thetis?

73' Enzo
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 03 Nov 2021 19:32 #8

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Richie is working continuously on Thetis updates. I have the 2 dx as well as the apache 200d running thetis on protocol 1. With the latest update Richie has going I can tell ya, though the front end of the 2 dx is a little nicer/smoother to listen to (fixed with a little rx eq to stomp down some of the harshness on the 200), Thetis is now the true force to be reckoned with. Eats the ee sw and 2 dx for lunch. That auto agc-t feature on the new thetis is insane. The lack of a true agc-t on the sun is my biggest gripe. Makes me almost hate the rig. I jump back and forth trying to get it to work like the apache and it just won't. In theits all controls are smartly placed on the main gui and paired with a midi controller is just mind bendingly awesome. No contest. Really a masterful job and definitely "community" approached from a developmental standpoint. All practical, speed enhancing improvements. I like the 2 dx but can't touch the apache running the new thetis. Just praying they bring back the V2 GUI in V3. If they don't i'll probably be selling the sun. Be a cold day in hell when I'm forced to dig thru drop down windows just to execute basic functions that even sdr console has as standard....and FREE!
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 03 Nov 2021 21:45 #9

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K1GMM, (Steven)

Just checked out your QRZ page and love the skin on the Thetis software. Where can I get a copy?

Like you, at this end a big fan of the TAPR > OpenHPSDR > Anan initiative.

The little Anan 10e (Hermes) was the radio that persuaded me to sell everything else in the shack. I still have that radio and it now has a dedicated Peli Case to reside in. It comes out on field days.

I had a Anan 100D for a while but sold that to upgrade to a Anan Apache 7000 DLE 2. That radio has now been upgraded and runs the latest Thetis software.

Before the upgrade there was a real concern about the new interface and difficulty in getting familiar. However it was very similar to the previous version but had many more bells and whistles.

So...side by side.

I really like the new interface on the latest v3 software from EE.

It has probably been the cause of most of the feedback from the alpha software testing.

Buttons/Hotspots have a right click / left click action.

For example, if you 'right click' the green headphone icon in the footer it goes 'off'. You can then 'left click' to change devices using the scroll before 'right clicking' to re-enable.

Similarly, for AGC. Hover over the 'Agc' title in the top right slider control, and toggle 'Auto gain' to on-off.

I got caught out by the chain icon (lower left). Right click to enable the VHF.LNA. Doh!

P.S. The above examples are referring to screen estate efficiency verses any additional functionality that might be needed.

As for the Open source vs In house argument.

That will require a whole new Forum

Tom G0JSV
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 03 Nov 2021 23:21 #10

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That would be a Hugh mistake.
While having additional inputs from individuals is a good thing it needs to be incorporated via the current system, not just thrown out there for consumption.
The only way it can work is if everyone is on the same page and working together, especially in the documentation and operation.
Just listening to the other SDR "Open Source" operators is they need to find someone to show them the way, there's little to no operational information available for anyone to download and follow.
Its available for download with no operational instructions.
The majority of SDR operators are none 1 & 0 individuals, they need someone to guide them.

EESDR only issues an operational version with instructions and documentation that's been rung out through tried and true accepted methods.
They also have an active Forum to assist individuals on an as needed basis.

I vote NO for Open Source.

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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 04 Nov 2021 10:50 #11

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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 04 Dec 2021 00:36 #12

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Have used the software, compared to Flex or Anan? I suspect not!
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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 04 Dec 2021 00:45 #13

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I owned a Flex 6600M for 3.5 yrs.
There wasn't anything spectacular about their SW, however their GUI was clean, uncluttered and items were all easily acessed.
I have no intention of using an ANAN. Their GUI's that I've seen are way to busy and crowded.
Once SDR3 is formally released it will blow out everything I've used or seen to date on the Ham bands.

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Your poor software quality ruins the reputation of your products. 11 Dec 2021 17:55 #14

I concur with Tom, I used a Flex 6300 for 4 years prior to my SunSDR2DX and would never go back.

Andy F5VAI
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